Disciple Up Show Notes #84
State of the Church
By Louie Marsh, 11-28-2018

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Episode eighty-three

Disciple Up Show Notes #83
What Am I Thankful For?
By Louie Marsh, 11-21-2018

8  Oh give thanks to the LORD; call upon his name; make known his deeds among the peoples! 1 Chronicles 16:8 (ESV)

34  Oh give thanks to the LORD, for he is good; for his steadfast love endures forever! 35  Say also: “Save us, O God of our salvation, and gather and deliver us from among the nations, that we may give thanks to your holy name and glory in your praise. 1 Chronicles 16:34-35 (ESV)

21  And when he had taken counsel with the people, he appointed those who were to sing to the LORD and praise him in holy attire, as they went before the army, and say, “Give thanks to the LORD, for his steadfast love endures forever.” 2 Chronicles 20:21 (ESV)

1 I will give thanks to the LORD with my whole heart; I will recount all of your wonderful deeds. Psalm 9:1 (ESV)

What Am I Thankful For?

That I live in the USA.

For my health which is good, especially for someone 65

For both my parents, now gone, who molded and shaped me in ways both large and small.

That I’m employed and doing something that’s meaningful and that I absolutely love

For my Associate Pastor Amy, who is amazing.

For my congregation for allowing me to serve, putting up with me and loving me despite my manifold imperfections.

That I just finished a new book, which you’ll be hearing about shortly

That I finished my Camino (Episode 80)

For books and reading in general.

For history and all the lessons both large and small you can learn from studying it

For the fun I have doing videos for my Wargaming Guy YouTube channel

I’m thankful for the Lord opening doors for me in the community. Like Tales From the Scrypt, this podcast, becoming a Chaplain for the Sheriff’s office, being on the Board of the Chamber of Commerce.

I’m thankful for being able to serve overseas, and the people I’ve met there who are amazing.

Thankful for our military and am especially thankful for my Marine Raiders, and the privilege of serving on the board of the USMRA, being its chaplain for years, etc.

That I live in Arizona, hot weather and all!

For friends both old and new

For the Bible which is God’s Word and truth

For God who cares for me in spite of myself

For Jesus who loved me, died for me, came back to life for me.

For the Gospel which is the best news ever.

For all you who are listening to this podcast. I’ve lost a lot of listeners lately, not sure why and hoping they come back. So if you’ve stuck with me you get a double thank you and if you are new that’s fantastic!




Disciple Up #82

Can Christians Sue Each Other & a Life Lesson From Jeremiah

By Louie Marsh, 11-14-2018

CT article – https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2018/november-web-only/james-macdonald-harvest-bible-chapel-suing-our-critics-bibl.html


“How can you say, ‘We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us’? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. The wise men shall be put to shame; they shall be dismayed and taken; behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them? Therefore I will give their wives to others and their fields to conquerors, because from the least to the greatest everyone is greedy for unjust gain; from prophet to priest, everyone deals falsely. They have healed the wound of my people lightly, saying, ‘Peace, peace,’ when there is no peace. Jeremiah 8:8-11 (ESV)

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Episode 81

Disciple Up #81
What has Political Involvement Done to the Church?
By Louie Marsh, 11-7-2018



The involvement in politics by the church as the church – ie as a group representing Jesus and His Gospel; has done near irreparable damage to both the church and the Gospel.

See this in non-Christians identifying Christians as people who are AGAINST – gays, abortion, porn, etc. We are known by what we are against and not what we are for. This is a disaster for any group or organization.

We are seen as hypocritical moral crusaders and this view has tarred nearly the entire church.

Specifically I believe our involvement has done several bad things to us.

  • Spurred the growth of Moralism – which is the enemy of the Gospel and one of the largest idols in the human heart.
  • Gotten us off course from preaching the Gospel and building the kingdom to trying to be saviors of our culture and country. This is not what the church is called to do and be in the New Testament.
  • Watered down the Gospel by our uniting with other religious groups who distort or deny the Gospel but agree with us on certain moral issues.

Imagine what the hundreds of million of dollars Christians gave to political causes could have done in the Kingdom if we had been wise enough to use them there.

Instead we’ve distorted Jesus and His Gospel and church and all for what?


 The “Christian Right” has failed.

Example – what were the two big issues when all this started back in 1979 – Prayer in Public Schools and Abortion on demand. Both are still here.

In the meantime the Christian right fought homosexual rights and now we have homosexual marriage via the Supreme Court. Another sterling defeat by the so called Christian movement.

Politics is down stream from culture.

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