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Episode 90

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Disciple Up #80
The Gifts of the Holy Spirit, Pt. 1
What are the gifts of the Spirit, how many are there & how do they relate to natural talents?
Show Notes, 1-9-2019

 

Where we’re Going For the Next Two Months

Disciple Up Tie Into Everyday in the Spirit

Everyday in the Spirit – https://goo.gl/vAkHH5

Please Note:  I made a mistake when I read out the URL to get to all the Everyday in the Spirit Campaign materials – here’s the correct URL:  http://christschurchontheriver.com/spiritual-growth/everyday/

Gift List websites consulted:

http://giftstest.com/allgifts

https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/spiritual-gifts/

https://mintools.com/gifts-list.htm

https://www.allaboutgod.com/gifts-of-the-spirit.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_gift#cite_note-GrudemSysTheo1020-10

Romans 12:6–8 1 Corinthians 12:8–10 1 Corinthians 12:28 Ephesians 4:11 1 Peter 4:11
1.    Prophecy

2.    Serving

3.    Teaching

4.    Exhortation

5.    Giving

6.    Leadership

7.    Mercy

 1.    Word of wisdom

2.    Word of knowledge

3.    Faith

4.    Gifts of healings

5.    Miracles

6.    Prophecy

7.    Distinguishing between spirits

8.    Tongues

9.    Interpretation of tongues

 1.    Apostle

2.    Prophet

3.    Teacher

4.    Miracles

5.    Kinds of healings

6.    Helps

7.    Administration

8.    Tongues

 1.    Apostle

2.    Prophet

3.    Evangelist

4.    Pastor

5.    Teacher

 1.    Whoever speaks

2.    Whoever renders service[10]

The Old Testament:

1  The LORD said to Moses, 2  “See, I have called by name Bezalel the son of Uri, son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah, 3  and I have filled him with the Spirit of God, with ability and intelligence, with knowledge and all craftsmanship, 4  to devise artistic designs, to work in gold, silver, and bronze, 5  in cutting stones for setting, and in carving wood, to work in every craft. 6  And behold, I have appointed with him Oholiab, the son of Ahisamach, of the tribe of Dan. And I have given to all able men ability, that they may make all that I have commanded you: Exodus 31:1-6 (ESV)

Total New Testament number – around 18, plus what you see in the OT.

Differences Between Gifts & Talents:

The usual explanation – SHAPE

The problem with that illustrated

My view on what could be really happening here:

7  To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. 1 Corinthians 12:7 (ESV)

I like this view because it engages the whole person, every ability I have can and will be used by God for His glory when He chooses to do so.

Books Used:

 Discover Your Spiritual Gift and Use it – Rick Yohn

19 Gifts of the Holy Spirit – Leslie B. Flynn

Your Spiritual Gifts Can Help Your Church Grow – C. Peter Wagner

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Episode 89

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 An E-Mail Pours In!

Ha! Thanks for the education on the background of using X in Xmas – I always felt guilty if I happened to use it, thus tried not to ever. My sacred cows are being slain one by one – Vivian

Idea – Let’s do a Sacred Cows Series!

What are some of the sacred cows you know of. Even those you’ve learned aren’t true, others might not know. So if you’re sure or unsure send them in to me and I’ll do some research and share them as I’m able on the podcast! E-mail me at louie@dicipleup.org or use the FaceBook page – facebook.com/discipleup

Where We’re Going For the Next Two Months

Disciple Up Tie Into Everyday in the Spirit

Everyday in the Spirit – https://goo.gl/vAkHH5

Topics Covered

1-9- What are the gifts of the Spirit, how many are there & how do they relate to natural talents?

1-16-Defining how the spiritual gifts really work.

1-23- Perpetuity of the Spiritual Gifts Pt. 1

1-30- Perpetuity of the Spiritual Gifts Pt. 2

2-6- How does being filled with the Spirit relate to Spiritual Gifts?

2-13- What “the anointing” really is & the hidden agenda behind how it’s commonly taught

2-20 – Seeing the Work of the Spirit in my life & Q&A

2-27- Q&A on the Spirit

Life Lessons From Jeremiah – UNDERSTAND BOTH THE NATURE OF GOD AND EVIL

16 “As for you, do not pray for this people, or lift up a cry or prayer for them, and do not intercede with me, for I will not hear you. 17 Do you not see what they are doing in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? 18 The children gather wood, the fathers kindle fire, and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven. And they pour out drink offerings to other gods, to provoke me to anger. 19 Is it I whom they provoke? declares the LORD. Is it not themselves, to their own shame?

20 Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: Behold, my anger and my wrath will be poured out on this place, upon man and beast, upon the trees of the field and the fruit of the ground; it will burn and not be quenched.”

21 Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel: “Add your burnt offerings to your sacrifices, and eat the flesh. 22 For in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, I did not speak to your fathers or command them concerning burnt offerings and sacrifices. 23 But this command I gave them: ‘Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and you shall be my people. And walk in all the way that I command you, that it may be well with you.’ 24 But they did not obey or incline their ear, but walked in their own counsels and the stubbornness of their evil hearts, and went backward and not forward. 25 From the day that your fathers came out of the land of Egypt to this day, I have persistently sent all my servants the prophets to them, day after day. 26 Yet they did not listen to me or incline their ear, but stiffened their neck. They did worse than their fathers.

27 “So you shall speak all these words to them, but they will not listen to you. You shall call to them, but they will not answer you. 28 And you shall say to them, ‘This is the nation that did not obey the voice of the LORD their God, and did not accept discipline; truth has perished; it is cut off from their lips. 29 “‘Cut off your hair and cast it away; raise a lamentation on the bare heights, for the LORD has rejected and forsaken the generation of his wrath.’

30 “For the sons of Judah have done evil in my sight, declares the LORD. They have set their detestable things in the house that is called by my name, to defile it. 31 And they have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, which I did not command, nor did it come into my mind. 32 Therefore, behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when it will no more be called Topheth, or the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, but the Valley of Slaughter; for they will bury in Topheth, because there is no room elsewhere. 33 And the dead bodies of this people will be food for the birds of the air, and for the beasts of the earth, and none will frighten them away. 34 And I will silence in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem the voice of mirth and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride, for the land shall become a waste. Jeremiah 7:16-34 (ESV)

SPEAK TO THE ROOT OF THE SIN – THE REASON PEOPLE DO WRONG:

“How can you say, ‘We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us’? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. The wise men shall be put to shame; they shall be dismayed and taken; behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them? Therefore I will give their wives to others and their fields to conquerors, because from the least to the greatest everyone is greedy for unjust gain; from prophet to priest, everyone deals falsely. They have healed the wound of my people lightly, saying, ‘Peace, peace,’ when there is no peace. Jeremiah 8:8-11 (ESV)

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Disciple Up #87 Show Notes

The Non-Pagan Roots of Christmas

By Louie Marsh, 12-19-2018

Everyday in the Spirit 

Christmas wasn’t “borrowed” from a pagan holiday at all!

https://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=16-10-012-v

Gandhi Statue Torn Down

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/14/racist-gandhi-statue-removed-from-university-of-ghana

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Eighty-Six

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Disciple Up #86

Critique: C.S. Lewis & Christmas

By Louie Marsh, 12-12-2018

C.S. Lewis article quoted in the show: http://www.pas.rochester.edu/~tim/study/CSLewis.pdf

From the book God in the Dock: https://goo.gl/yUXebu

Everyday in the Spirit – https://goo.gl/vAkHH5

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Disciple Up # 85
News & Views, News of Concern to Disciples
By Louie Marsh, 12-5-2018

Pope Francis: Gay men shouldn’t be priests

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-homosexuals-book/be-celibate-or-leave-the-priesthood-pope-tells-gay-priests-idUSKBN1O10K7

https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2018/november/missionary-killed-north-sentinel-isolated-island-tribe-chau.html

5  These twelve Jesus sent out, instructing them, “Go nowhere among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritans, 6  but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 7  And proclaim as you go, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ 8  Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying; give without pay. 9  Acquire no gold or silver or copper for your belts, 10  no bag for your journey, or two tunics or sandals or a staff, for the laborer deserves his food. 11  And whatever town or village you enter, find out who is worthy in it and stay there until you depart. 12  As you enter the house, greet it. 13  And if the house is worthy, let your peace come upon it, but if it is not worthy, let your peace return to you. 14  And if anyone will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet when you leave that house or town. 15  Truly, I say to you, it will be more bearable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah than for that town.

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Disciple Up Show Notes #84
State of the Church
By Louie Marsh, 11-28-2018

The Three Main Stories Covered:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/24/atheist-pastor-canada-gretta-vosper-united-church-canada

https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2018/november/christians-family-faith-pew-research-meaning.html

https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2018/november/uk-state-of-theology-ligonier-british-evangelicals-dont-kno.html

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Disciple Up Show Notes #83
What Am I Thankful For?
By Louie Marsh, 11-21-2018

8  Oh give thanks to the LORD; call upon his name; make known his deeds among the peoples! 1 Chronicles 16:8 (ESV)

34  Oh give thanks to the LORD, for he is good; for his steadfast love endures forever! 35  Say also: “Save us, O God of our salvation, and gather and deliver us from among the nations, that we may give thanks to your holy name and glory in your praise. 1 Chronicles 16:34-35 (ESV)

21  And when he had taken counsel with the people, he appointed those who were to sing to the LORD and praise him in holy attire, as they went before the army, and say, “Give thanks to the LORD, for his steadfast love endures forever.” 2 Chronicles 20:21 (ESV)

1 I will give thanks to the LORD with my whole heart; I will recount all of your wonderful deeds. Psalm 9:1 (ESV)

What Am I Thankful For?

That I live in the USA.

For my health which is good, especially for someone 65

For both my parents, now gone, who molded and shaped me in ways both large and small.

That I’m employed and doing something that’s meaningful and that I absolutely love

For my Associate Pastor Amy, who is amazing.

For my congregation for allowing me to serve, putting up with me and loving me despite my manifold imperfections.

That I just finished a new book, which you’ll be hearing about shortly

That I finished my Camino (Episode 80)

For books and reading in general.

For history and all the lessons both large and small you can learn from studying it

For the fun I have doing videos for my Wargaming Guy YouTube channel

I’m thankful for the Lord opening doors for me in the community. Like Tales From the Scrypt, this podcast, becoming a Chaplain for the Sheriff’s office, being on the Board of the Chamber of Commerce.

I’m thankful for being able to serve overseas, and the people I’ve met there who are amazing.

Thankful for our military and am especially thankful for my Marine Raiders, and the privilege of serving on the board of the USMRA, being its chaplain for years, etc.

That I live in Arizona, hot weather and all!

For friends both old and new

For the Bible which is God’s Word and truth

For God who cares for me in spite of myself

For Jesus who loved me, died for me, came back to life for me.

For the Gospel which is the best news ever.

For all you who are listening to this podcast. I’ve lost a lot of listeners lately, not sure why and hoping they come back. So if you’ve stuck with me you get a double thank you and if you are new that’s fantastic!

 

 

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Disciple Up #82

Can Christians Sue Each Other & a Life Lesson From Jeremiah

By Louie Marsh, 11-14-2018

CT article – https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2018/november-web-only/james-macdonald-harvest-bible-chapel-suing-our-critics-bibl.html

SPEAK TO THE ROOT OF THE SIN – THE REASON PEOPLE DO WRONG:

“How can you say, ‘We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us’? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. The wise men shall be put to shame; they shall be dismayed and taken; behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them? Therefore I will give their wives to others and their fields to conquerors, because from the least to the greatest everyone is greedy for unjust gain; from prophet to priest, everyone deals falsely. They have healed the wound of my people lightly, saying, ‘Peace, peace,’ when there is no peace. Jeremiah 8:8-11 (ESV)

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Episode 81

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Disciple Up #81
What has Political Involvement Done to the Church?
By Louie Marsh, 11-7-2018

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berrigan_Brothers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_Majority

The involvement in politics by the church as the church – ie as a group representing Jesus and His Gospel; has done near irreparable damage to both the church and the Gospel.

See this in non-Christians identifying Christians as people who are AGAINST – gays, abortion, porn, etc. We are known by what we are against and not what we are for. This is a disaster for any group or organization.

We are seen as hypocritical moral crusaders and this view has tarred nearly the entire church.

Specifically I believe our involvement has done several bad things to us.

  • Spurred the growth of Moralism – which is the enemy of the Gospel and one of the largest idols in the human heart.
  • Gotten us off course from preaching the Gospel and building the kingdom to trying to be saviors of our culture and country. This is not what the church is called to do and be in the New Testament.
  • Watered down the Gospel by our uniting with other religious groups who distort or deny the Gospel but agree with us on certain moral issues.

Imagine what the hundreds of million of dollars Christians gave to political causes could have done in the Kingdom if we had been wise enough to use them there.

Instead we’ve distorted Jesus and His Gospel and church and all for what?

FAILURE.

 The “Christian Right” has failed.

Example – what were the two big issues when all this started back in 1979 – Prayer in Public Schools and Abortion on demand. Both are still here.

In the meantime the Christian right fought homosexual rights and now we have homosexual marriage via the Supreme Court. Another sterling defeat by the so called Christian movement.

Politics is down stream from culture.

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